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Mother’s Worst Nightmare: Sons Killed on the Way to Graduation Ceremony

NANA’S COMMENTARY:

This story creates a shift in our self pitying paradigm and shakes us to the reality that we must not tarry to long. We must move outside of our mono-focused “all about me” world and “reach out and touch somebody’s” hand.

It may sound weird but that’s what this story did for me. It broke my focus on my own worries and pushed me to send “Healing Love & Light” vibrations to this family. Life & Death are both equally strong aspects of the experiential soul, however, it is how we engage the lessons and challenges that define our relationship to “Source”, “All In All”, “Creation” or whatever you want to call “God”.

The journey of life is filled with many twists & turns, ups and downs. Sometimes another’s sorrow, another’s loss is a wake-up call for others. Sometimes, as we sit bemoaning our individual fate; stressing about how to get out of a particular situation and grieving over our own losses; something like this happens and it seems to jolt us out of our own misery to acknowledge another’s sorrow. We are given a moment in which we can release our own sorrow and turn our attention and support to another.

Instinctively, we run towards another offering them compassion. This is healing. This is true concern for our fellow human being. This is true Love. Like a smack in the face, it wakes us up to the bigger issues we  must confront living on this planet. If this smack can move us outside of our own mono-focused realities; then maybe we could spread that around to all those who suffer on this planet. Maybe we can be more pro-active in being gentler, more caring, more conscientious and less willing to allow senseless aggression/violence against our planet and the life-forms that inhabit it.

As living soul beings, we are teachers and students on the path of life.  

Mother’s Worst Nightmare: Sons Killed on the Way to Graduation Ceremony as She Waits in the Audience

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By Yolanda Spivey
WINDSOR, NC- A mother’s worst nightmare came into fruition as she sat in the audience of her 17 year old son’s graduation only to be pulled away from the ceremony to hear devastating news.  Her two sons, 17 year old Deonta and 24 year old Anthony had been in a fatal car accident on their way to the ceremony.
Sandra Williams McGlone, and a host of other family members, were waiting to see her son Deonta Whitaker walk across the stage at his Bertie High School graduation to get his diploma, but instead she was told of the tragedy.
“I just can’t describe it.  It’s unbelievable.  It’s like it’s a dream that I want to wake up from,” said Williams-McGlone.
The family is devastated by this tragic news. Deonta’s aunt, Tamare Cherry told WBTW News 13, “This is such a difficult time for us.  It was just devastating.  Our minds were all over the place.”
Highway Patrol troopers said that the older brother Anthony was driving the younger brother Deonta to the high school graduation ceremony when he lost control of his vehicle and crashed into trees on the road they were traveling.  It is suspected that both young men died on impact.
The mother, Williams-McGlone stated that Deonta was headed to Elizabeth City State University and he was a scholar.  He received numerous scholarships to attend the University.  The oldest son Anthony was a graduate of Bertie County High School and was employed by UTI Global Logistic as a Technician. He leaves behind a 3 year old daughter.
Deonta’s best friend accepted his high school diploma on behalf of Deonta and his family.
The brother’s funerals will be held at the very same high school they were headed to.  They will be laid to rest in Ahoskie, N.C.    

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Memorial Day was started by former slaves on May 1, 1865 in Charleston, SC

May 26, 2013
KNOW YOUR HISTORY: Memorial Day was started by former slaves on May, 1, 1865 in Charleston, SC to honor 257 dead Union Soldiers who had been buried in a mass grave in a Confederate prison camp. They dug up the bodies and worked for 2 weeks to give them a proper burial as gratitude for fighting for their freedom. They then held a parade of 10,000 people led by 2,800 Black children where they marched, sang and celebrated.Thanks to Abstrakt Goldsmith for this nugget of history that most of us never learned in school.

To this, I say, why do we fight?? What is it about human nature that makes them believe that they must kill other human beings for their freedom?

The Glory of war is not glorious. Ask those who do fight. The first casualty of war is “Truth”. People are trained, brainwashed and distorted to believe that their leaders who do this to them would not lie to them, would not line their pockets with blood money and would care for them upon their return from the Battlefield.

All to often we see our fellow human beings become inhuman in their acts of warring against other human beings. And then they return home and are given ribbons, ribbons that honor how heroically they “killed” another human being for our “freedom”? The depth of the absurdity and cognitive dissonance is overwhelming. How does creating a war culture, a militarized environment, a police state, a surveillance state a cult of oppression of other human beings, give us freedom?

Our troops have their humanity removed from them as they are trained to believe that killing for freedom is tantamount to Patriotism. Patriotism is tantamount to all previously perceived values and standards. To be Patriotic means to stand by your government, even if it is found to be lying and creating scenarios in which you must risk your life and kill others, conquer others and invade others to maintain your freedom at home. The stalk reality that this aggression breeds more aggression and diminishes humanity to a banal state to me is the result of mass graves and disregard of the humanity of others.

This is not a political, racial, ethnic, national problem, it is a human problem, and it is the human being who continually takes the freedom and sovereignty of other humans in their so-called quest for “freedom” at home. An aerial view of this idiocy could cause humanity to stop and think, what is the purpose of this? Who profits? And more importantly, what is this doing to our basic humanity?  Is it really about defense or is it really about DOMINANCE?

Links and Commentary:There appears to be many variations on this theme and a bit of a debate as to who started what and when. The links below will show the differences in the history and opinions on this.  I think that this story shows the true horrors of war, something that would have been denied or ignored not because the Freedmen acknowledged the fallen soldiers but because of the way those fallen soldiers were treated on American soil.

From Dalp Pearson
Here is a tid-bit of back story on this photograph — Union Cemetery

During the closing days of the Civil War, the area was used as a prisoner-of-war camp. More than two hundred Union soldiers died in the camp and were buried in a mass grave at the site.

Union soldiers were buried behind the old racetrack’s stands near the present intersection of Tenth Ave. and Mary Murray Drive.
In an article titled “The First Decoration Day”, David W. Blight of Yale has written:[3]

“The city was largely abandoned by white residents by late February. Among the first troops to enter and march up Meeting Street singing liberation songs was the 21st U. S. Colored Infantry; their commander accepted the formal surrender of the city.

“Thousands of black Charlestonians, most former slaves, remained in the city and conducted a series of commemorations to declare their sense of the meaning of the war. The largest of these events, and unknown until some extraordinary luck in my recent research, took place on May 1, 1865. During the final year of the war, the Confederates had converted the planters’ horse track, the Washington Race Course and Jockey Club, into an outdoor prison. Union soldiers were kept in horrible conditions in the interior of the track; at least 257 died of exposure and disease and were hastily buried in a mass grave behind the grandstand. Some twenty-eight black workmen went to the site, re-buried the Union dead properly, and built a high fence around the cemetery. They whitewashed the fence and built an archway over an entrance on which they inscribed the words, ‘Martyrs of the Race Course’.

“Then, black Charlestonians in cooperation with white missionaries and teachers, staged an unforgettable parade of 10,000 people on the slaveholders’ race course. The symbolic power of the low-country planter aristocracy’s horse track (where they had displayed their wealth, leisure, and influence) was not lost on the freedpeople. A New York Tribune correspondent witnessed the event, describing ‘a procession of friends and mourners as South Carolina and the United States never saw before.’

“At 9 am on May 1, the procession stepped off led by three thousand black schoolchildren carrying arm loads of roses and singing ‘John Brown’s Body.’ The children were followed by several hundred black women with baskets of flowers, wreaths and crosses. Then came black men marching in cadence, followed by contingents of Union infantry and other black and white citizens. As many as possible gathering in the cemetery enclosure; a childrens’ choir sang ‘We’ll Rally around the Flag,’ the ‘Star-Spangled Banner,’ and several spirituals before several black ministers read from scripture. No record survives of which biblical passages rung out in the warm spring air, but the spirit of Leviticus 25 was surely present at those burial rites: ‘for it is the jubilee; it shall be holy unto you … in the year of this jubilee he shall return every man unto his own possession.’

“Following the solemn dedication the crowd dispersed into the infield and did what many of us do on Memorial Day: they enjoyed picnics, listened to speeches, and watched soldiers drill. Among the full brigade of Union infantry participating was the famous 54th Massachusetts and the 34th and 104th U.S. Colored Troops, who performed a special double-columned march around the gravesite. The war was over, and Decoration Day had been founded by African Americans in a ritual of remembrance and consecration. The war, they had boldly announced, had been all about the triumph of their emancipation over a slaveholders’ republic, and not about state rights, defense of home, nor merely soldiers’ valor and sacrifice.”

By late April 1865, a white picket fence on which was written “The Martyrs of the Race Course” had been erected.[4] On May 1, 1865, thousands of people, mainly newly freed blacks, processed to the site, and members of the 54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry marched around the site. The graves were decorated, speeches were offered, and celebrants enjoyed picnics in the area.[5] This has been cited as the first Memorial Day celebration. By 1871, the cemetery was suffering neglect, and the soldiers were reinterred at the Beaufort[3] and Florence National Cemeteries.

http://m.video.pbs.org/video/2318014363/

Watch Memorial Day on PBS. See more from American Experience.

   
In the May 1865, the newspaper covered what Blight argues should be credited as the nation’s first memorial day observance, held on May 1, 1865. At that time, Charleston was largely in ruins and families were eager to rebuild their lives and their city. The photos on this page are Library of Congress images from the era. Two simply show scenes of wartime devastation in the city. But the photo at right here appears to show the land where the former Confederate prison camp stood (also the site of a pre-Civil War Race Course). The photo appears to show work beginning on raising the remains in April 1865 in preparation for the new cemetery that eventually would include a wall, an archway entrance and properly buried remains.
    The Daily Courier coverage of that first memorial day, May 1, 1865, was headlined …

The Martyrs of the Race Course”




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/jim-downs/who-invented-memorial-day_b_3340146.html
http://www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.html
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20090524/PC1602/305249938
http://www.waterloony.com/mdayhistory.html
http://video.pbs.org/video/2318014363/
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/28/opinion/28mon4.html?_r=1&
http://jobs.blacknews.com/content/232372/blog.cgi?cid&reading=1

http://www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.html
http://www.va.gov/opa/speceven/memday/history.asp
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1900454,00.html
http://www.blackbluedog.com/2013/05/news/did-you-know-memorial-day-was-started-by-ex-slaves/
http://blackhistory.com/content/232359/the-first-memorial-day-10-000-march-in-charleston-many-former-slaves-to-celebrate-freedom

From: Navneet Gupta
“The greatest purveyor of violence in the world is my own government, I cannot be silent”

“A nation that year after year continues to spend more money on military defense than on social uplift is approaching spiritual death”

“We have guided missiles, yet misguided men.”

– Martin Luther King, Jr.(1929 – 1968)

Militarism is glorified in the west. We are asked to “remember” the fallen, yet keep fighting in these same unjust conflicts at the same time (many of which we are responsible for starting). It makes no sense?

The U.S. is one of only two countries which has not ratified the convention regarding the use of child soldiers. They are also the largest arms dealers in the world (here is our WMD).

War is all about greed, power, and exploiting the powerless. War has nothing to do with freedom, loving your country, or being a hero. War is about killing innocent people, stealing what they have and keeping power over them through violence & propaganda.

A FRACTION of the money spent on the military industrial complex could eradicate hunger (Food, Not Bombs!), and all other social and ecological problems humanity faces (saving lives instead of taking them).

‘Developed’ nations along with their corporate raiders prop up a corrupt elite at the top of poor nations through the selling of arms, funding, ‘development’, loans, etc. This has allowed for the extraction of indigenous wealth from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere (Often referred to as ‘Neocolonialism’)

Was gonna share this video on Facebook, but I think not. How is it that “Sept. 11, 2001 Osama bin Laden used expert CIA training to murder 3000 people?” Has this been proven? Last on this, those so-called terrorist couldn’t fly a plane straight, much less maneuver 1 into the towers 2x’s& avoid detection as it careened into the Pentagon. Michael Moore at best gives facts & at worst, throws a dis-info tidbit just to see if you are paying attention. Not cool, so what part do you believe? Dis-info discredits.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbjr_cPS9_A

U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds

 
But I feel that the training should be done with the parents first, not the children. What happens in a lot of cases is that children are exposed to things that their parents are not aware of or would not expose them to or in some other cases do not want the children to even talk about.
This issue is two-pronged.
1. While they claim to empower the children they are dis-empowering the parents and placing themselves in the position of authority over the children beyond their parents.
2. If there is sexual impropriety on any level, be it parents, teachers, staff or others, who will come forth and expose this? If the children are given the proper training it must include the whole family to be most healthy and forthright for all involved.
I had an interesting dream, and I think it came from this topic.
I was an educator, somewhere, and it was not my present self but a teacher nevertheless attempting to handle this situation in my small school with my children. Their ages were in this range, and the demographics were across the board. The children responded all quite differently to “Sex Education” and it varied according to their home environment. One young man, about 9-10 years of age, he was African American, a little heavy and a little tall for his age. He became hysterical, and began to scream and ran out of the room. We had to calm him down and every time we attempted to bring him back into the room, he would yell and scream hysterically.(Clearly, he was not comfortable at all with the idea of discussing this in his classroom. He may have felt that school was his sage environment and now that safety was threatened because this was being discussed in the classroom. Apparently, he had been treated inappropriately and he was having a severe reaction.)
There were other students who considered it playful, they began to play around laughing and giggling. (Clearly, there was something missed in the instructions as they were not taking this as seriously as we had envisioned.)
Then there was another young lady and young man who were a bit older, maybe late teens. It seems there was an attraction already there between them, and they began to mimic having sew, right there in the classroom. When they were told that the lesson was over, the young man, having become fully aroused refused to stop and quickly turned the young girl over and penetrated her anus. She screamed and we had to pull him off her. It was unbelievable but he said, you can’t bring me this far and then tell me now it’s time to stop.
Okay, this was a dream, and I think that it is showing me the dangers of this approach if not properly handled. If you have people with nefarious motives doing this, well, they are not going to think of all the angles that can cause this to be a hurtful experience for some, traumatic for others and the usurpation of the parents’ authority and/or responsibility to be the first educators of this and so many other topics for their children. If parents allows the PTB to determine hand over fist, what is best for their children, then the society is controlled by those who are less interested in the genuine welfare of the children and more interested in their own agendas.
We simply must take control of our lives back and bring it home into our family situations and only if there is no other recourse,, rely on outside institutions to determine what is best for us.
In this day and age, we have become so dependent on the society and its programs to take care of us and our needs, we have forgotten or have gotten lazy about doing this ourselves. We have in essence become slaves to the MACHINE/MATRIX/POWERS THAT BE.

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U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds
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The United Nations is recommending that children as young as five receive mandatory sexual education that would teach even pre-kindergarteners about masturbation and topics like gender violence.

The U.N.’s Economic, Social and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) released a 98-page report in June offering a universal lesson plan for kids ranging in age from 5-18, an
“informed approach to effective sex, relationships” and HIV education that they say is essential for “all young people.”

The U.N. insists the program is “age appropriate,” but critics say it’s exposing kids to sex far too early, and offers up abstract ideas — like “transphobia” — they might not even understand.

“At that age they should be learning about … the proper name of certain parts of their bodies,” said Michelle Turner, president of Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum, “certainly not about masturbation.”

Turner was disturbed by UNESCO’s plans to explain to children as young as nine about the safety of legal abortions, and to advocate and “promote the right to and access to safe abortion” for everyone over the age of 15.

“This is absurd,” she told FOXNews.com.

The UNESCO report, called “International Guidelines for Sexuality Education,” separates children into four age groups: 5-to-8-year-olds, 9-to-12-year-olds, 12-to-15-year-olds and 15-to-18-year-olds.

Under the U.N.’s voluntary sex-ed regime, kids just 5-8 years old will be told that “touching and rubbing one’s genitals is called masturbation” and that private parts “can feel pleasurable when touched by oneself.”

• Click here to see the report.
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/082509_unesco.pdf

By the time they’re 9 years old, they’ll learn about “positive and negative effects of ‘aphrodisiacs,” and wrestle with the ideas of “homophobia, transphobia and abuse of power.”

At 12, they’ll learn the “reasons for” abortions — but they’ll already have known about their safety for three years. When they’re 15, they’ll be exposed to direct “advocacy to promote the right to and access to safe abortion.”

Child health experts say they are wary of teaching about the sticky topic of abortion, but stress that as long as messages stay age-appropriate, educating kids at a younger age helps better steer them into adulthood.

“The adults are more leery of [early sex-ed] than the kids are,” said Dr. Jennifer Hartstein, a child psychiatrist in New York. “Our own fears sometimes prevent us from being as open and honest with our kids as possible.”

Hartstein, however, who didn’t see much harm in explaining basic concepts that kids of all ages will have questions about, was baffled by some of the ideas the U.N. hoped to introduce to kids as young as 5 years old, who will be taught about “gender roles, stereotypes and gender-based violence.”

“I want to know how you teach that to a 5-year-old,” Hartstein told FOXNews.com.

Despite those challenges, the U.N. insists that “in a world affected by HIV and AIDS … there is an imperative to give children and young people the knowledge, skills and values to understand and make informed decisions.”

UNESCO officials said the guidelines were “co-authored by two leading experts in the field of sexuality education” — Dr. Doug Kirby, an adolescent sexuality expert, and Nanette Ecker, the former director of international education and training at the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States.

Their report was based on a “rigorous review” of sex-ed literature, “drawing upon 87 studies from around the world,” said Mark Richmond, director of UNESCO’s Division for the Coordination of U.N. Priorities in Education, in an e-mailed statement.

Richmond defended teaching about masturbation as “age-appropriate” because even in early childhood, “children are known to be curious about their bodies.” Their lessons, he added, would hopefully help kids “develop a more complex understanding of sexual behaviour” as they grow into adults.

But Michelle Turner, of Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum, said that such roles should be left up to parents, and worried that children were being exposed to too much information too soon.

“Why can’t kids be kids anymore?” she said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,543203,00.html#ixzz2Pr0y5WQw

Why the West Wanted Qaddafi

Nana’s Comments:

But I think the bigger reason is that great man-made river and the technology he used to change a desert into farmland. They don’t really need oil, that is a sham, they know all about free energy. They wanted and seized Qaddafi’s 3-4 billion dollars in gold dinars. He was threatening to change his economy to the gold dinar and he was encouraging other African leaders to do the same. And there is historical, spiritual and cosmic reasons for them to seize certain territories. If you notice, these territories are mentioned in the Bible stories. These lands are so ancient, that Europeans cannot be found there. The history is unbelievable. If they can conquer these regions they can really re-write history while gaining access to the ancient secrets.These folks know what’s up, they keep the masses in the dark

Frankenstorm Sandy & Compassion

Just one reason I’m voting for him…. compassion.
President Obama hugs North Point Marina owner Donna Vanzant as he tours damage done by Hurricane Sandy in Brigantine, New Jersey (Larry Downing/Reuters) 10-31-2012

 
Is it me, or is it just American exceptionalism?
Do American lives, damage to their homes and lands, mean more, or is worth more than any other life on the planet?
 My heart goes out to those who suffered during the so-called “Frankenstorm” Sandy that hit the East Coast.
Being an empathetic person, I feel deeply their sadness and am reminded of my blessings as I only experienced a short power outage.
But Jeeez, are we talking about some one who joked about predator drones? Someone who helped in destroying the entire country, infrastructure, social structure and political structure of Libya?

Aren’t we talking about someone who blasted Osama bin Laden’s gory shot up face and the detestable defeat of Muamar Qaddafi?

Aren’t we talking about someone who dropped bombs by predator drones on wedding parties, and innocents who happen to be in the area?


Aren’t we talking about someone who has increased sanctions on Iran to cripple their economy, while giving millions and millions of dollars to Israel those dollars used to destroy the Homeland of the Palestinians?


Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan (Part 2) Listen to the Truth not the lies you are told on American Jewish TV.

Are we talking about the same administration that has a kill (Disposition) list?
Aren’t we talking about the same administration that sleeps at night while children lie in hospitals with their arms and legs blown off and their parents killed?
Yes, it is a sorrowful thing that happened with this Super Storm.
But how come we Americans can have soooo much compassion for the loss of our fellow citizens and in the same breath support war, invasion, incursion and destruction of another’s homeland without a whimper and continue to support US imperialism around the world.
How is that possible that these two types of hearts can exist in the same body?
No, I am not impressed with fly overs, walks on the ground and hugs for suffering country men and women.
I will be impressed when there is a global acknowledgement, that human beings live all over this planet, they hurt, they suffer, they grieve.
That our planet does not deserve the treatment it receives from our over consumption.
I will be impressed when the humanity blanket spreads across the entire planet, and when I hear the administration say to all those they have taken life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness away from,

WE ARE SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, WE ARE THERE FOR YOU, WE WILL NOT LEAVE YOU, CALL US WHENEVER YOU NEED TO! 

Say what you will, this is the real truth and so often folks get caught up in the superfluous photo opts and loose sight of the bigger picture.

Voting For Obama Because he is Black????

Voting For Obama Because he is Black????
by Nana Baakan Agyiriwah on Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 10:58pm

I find it quite troubling that after the many declarations of skills, talents, ability, wisdom, knowledge and understanding herald by African peoples past and present world wide for millions of years on this planet, that we, having only been under the USA/European Slavery system for some four+ hundred years, have devolved to the point of choosing a leader because he is black, and there ain’t nobody else out there. What has this whole nation become? A nation of take the lesser of two evils?? Why do we have to choose evil at all??

The President of the United States is not only representing African people, but supposedly he is a world representative and in some perceptions, the representative of the greatest country in the world, a world leader, et al, and we vote for him simply because he is black, or we feel we are taboo to express our concerns over the policies of this man in black skin.

How is it that on his watch the US has engaged in 3 war campaigns, drone attacks on other sovereign countries and what we saw without regard in Libya, sending troops deep into Africa, and now this Kony thing? These are military operations and we all know what military operations look like. Why is there no challenge to this, or, if folks are so happy about the Health Care legislation, much of those dollars that are spent on war could certainly be spent here in the US, and build infrastructure and develop genuine green energy.

Why is it okay, to look the other way, and say, well, he is black and he is all we have and we have been fighting for our seat at the table for 4 hundred years, instead of looking at the table, see what is being served, check out the room the table is in, then look outside at the neighborhood? Have we become so desperate for leadership, that we will take anything that is thrown at us? Why are people ignoring the aides, backers and financial supporter of Pres. Barack Obama? Why are they stepping over this elephant in the room so they can claim they lived during the time when a Black man was President of the United States.

There have been many African Presidents, Rulers, kings and monarchs, does that mean that they too were above reproach, and therefore their misdeeds could be overlooked, and no one is ever called to task? Is that what happened to the many African nations that have dropped the ball on their developments because the people did not, would not see beyond the corruption?

Again, it is quite troubling to me, that the reason folks are voting for Obama again is because he is black, or, on the other side of the aisle he is being mis-treated by them white folks who don’t want to see no black folks get anywhere. Folks we need to wake up. The fact that he is still in office proves that the “Important White Folks who run this country” want him there. The media talking heads are all on board the good ship lollipop because they are being told and paid to do so. As soon as the tied changes, they too will change and pull out all the dirt and grime they can.

Bottom-line, it is flimsy to support any person in such a high position because of their ethnicity. Since these people will be on the front lines for all folks in this country, they need to have top notch skills to maintain that position on the front lines. They need to know what is going on domestically and globally as it relates to economic, politics, world affairs cultures, religions, societal norms, manners, and etiquette, along with a strong sense of the seriousness of their position as it relates to world peace and maintaining a peaceful environment at the home base. They need to be scholars in all the fields that are needed to govern a whole nation properly. This may sound like a tall task but if they are at least familiar with the nuts and bolts of this kind of leadership, they will call around them folks to advise them that are highly eligible to advise a President. In this way, when they receive advise that is non-supportive of the original agenda, then they can make a determination and have the person step down from the position of adviser.

The President should be keenly aware that the decisions he makes will reflect back on him and not on the advisers behind him. So they should be chosen appropriately. This will probably sound rather idealistic and probably unrealistic, but my point is that we need to get there in our own discernment, before we take this ship down to hell!! Waving an American flag with Obama’s face on it!!!!! What does that mean???

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